Many Americans feel more divided than ever. But are we really? Investigative journalist Peter Schweizer joins Glenn to expose how the Chinese Communist Party is using real disinformation to divide us. As described in his new book, "Blood Money," China has funded and pushed everything from the trans agenda to radical violent protests in our streets. Schweizer also exposes how the Chinese military is running thousands of social media accounts posing as Americans: half claim that America is racist and bigoted and the other half spew white supremacy. "This is clearly an effort to destabilize the United States," he argues. And that's just the beginning of China's secret war against America ...
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GLENN: We're with peter Schweitzer. He's the president of the Government Accountability Institute.
He's also a guy who has written several books, exposés on both the right and the left.
The left now forgets that he does that, and they just call him a tool of the right, but he lets the chips fall where they may.
Thus, why he's talking about people in several books, like Mitch McConnell.
So, Peter, we're talking about in your book, blood money. How the Chinese Communist Party is sewing chaos in the United States.
Is there -- is there -- not that there needs to be. But do you have evidence of more things, other than just the fentanyl?
PETER: Oh, absolutely. Take the issue of the trans movement in the United States. This just erupted in the last five years.
If I point out in the book, two of the biggest funders of the trans movement in America, are China-based billionaires.
One is an American Marxist named Roy Singham.
He worked. He built a company called Thought Works. He was a consultant adviser to Huawei, a Chinese military-linked company.
He sold his business, made him a billionaire to a private equity company, partly owned by the Chinese government. He moved to Beijing. He's very close with people.
He gets invited to their events. He's put more than $160 million into radical causes in the United States, including the trans rights movement.
The other Chinese billionaire doing that, is a guy named Joe Tsai, who is the cofounder of Alibaba. He has poured tens of millions of dollars into the trans rights movement.
And in addition, he owns the WNBA Team in New York. The New York Liberty, which was the first professional sports team to have a trans athlete play.
Now, here's the -- the -- very troubling part for me, Glenn. About this, Glenn.
These guys do not push for these rights in China. They only push for these rights in the United States.
There's no -- they're not trans. They don't have family members that are trans. This is clearly an effort to, you know, destabilize the United States.
If you look at a lot of violent actions in the streets, in 2020, with BLM. Or the violent actions in the streets now, involving pro-Hamas demonstrators. There are a couple of groups. FRSO. PSL, that spearhead these really radical, violent protests.
As I lay out in the book, these organizations, that take their marching orders from China, in some cases, there are financial ties.
They consult with Chinese officials.
And I quote from Chinese government reports. Where they, actually, monitor and track the behavior of the organizations.
Then the other part I would add. Online.
There's so much craziness online.
The Chinese military. The PLA. Has thousands of experts, that run individually, thousands of social media accounts, where they pose as Americans, into the United States.
Basically half the account, Glenn, say America is a hopelessly racist, bigoted society. And the other half of the accounts say, I only like white people. And they're posing as Americans.
I think we're actually less divided, than we believe we are.
Examine China is trying to create fissures between us.
And they're very explicit, that this is part of the disintegration worker's strategy that they've embraced.
GLENN: Where would you put this on the scale of psyop operations of the past from Soviet Union, and everything else?
How big is this?
PETER: Oh, no comparison. Look, the Russians lacked sophistication when it came to this stuff. They lacked capacity. China is very, very aggressive, in their approach here. And if you think about it, it's brilliant. It's basically saying, we're going to beat the United States without actually fighting a war. And as we focus exclusively on how many battleships do we have? Or how many aircraft carriers do we have? What is the situation in Taiwan? Those are important issues, I'm not saying they are.
That's the exclusive focus on Washington. Nobody wants to focus on China's meddling in the United States.
GLENN: I will tell you, I -- I somewhat disagree with you.
We -- that's why our -- that's why our -- that's why we're doing a Colour Revolution op, really, I think, on ourselves, and all over the world.
We are doing that. But we are not doing it, with China.
We'll do it in Ukraine, and everything else.
Where we'll have these Colour Revolutions. And use many of these tactics on our own people, now, it's been shown.
But -- but China is approached as a friend in many ways.
PETER: Yeah, no, exactly.
I agree away with you. Yes, there's no question that the Colour Revolutions that started in the Obama administration. The Chinese, actually, site those as examples of what to use.
But, yeah. I mean, the problem is, we don't have an awareness of this. And there are people on the political left, that have some affinity for Beijing, that don't want to have this conversation.
I have in the book, for example, quotes from -- there's a Chinese organization. Called the center for the center of foreign Marxist parties.
Political parties. It reports directly to the central committee, the CCP.
We got asked to do an analysis in the United States. And one of the points of analysis is, that, yes. The Communist Party USA. Is disorganized. It's small, and it's irrelevant.
Why?
They talk favorably about the role of people like AOC and Bernie Sanders.
Examine they say, while these are not perfect vehicles.
They're still very helpful vehicles. This advancing the agenda, that they have in the United States.
So, you know, the political left does not want to talk about it.
Because these are their champions. Yet, there it is in black and white.
According to the Chinese point of view.
STU: Talking to Peter Schweizer. The book is Blood Money is out tomorrow. You need to get a copy of it.
Peter, can you talk about how much of this stuff, that China is trying to do, would be ineffective if we had a secure border?
And is this one of the reasons why we continually treat the border with such little significance in the federal government?
PETER: Yeah. That's a great point.
There's obviously the issue of illegal immigrants coming, particularly from China. It also involves certainly with fentanyl. There's problem.
I talk about in the book. Part of the Chinese strategy is sow violence in the American streets. China has a history of selling machine guns, to radical groups, and criminal organizations in the United States.
Going back to the 1990s.
They do it today, this a very clever way.
With a small device called a Glock switch.
It's a small switch that you put on a Glock handgun. It converts a Glock handgun to a fully automatic machine gun.
It's obviously highly illegal in the United States, highly illegal in China. You can't even own a firearm.
Yet, the Chinese are openly marketing and smuggling them into the United States.
And selling them to criminal gangs in this country.
It's a massive, widespread problem.
The rate of machine gunfire on American streets has escalated.
And customs and border protection first identified this in 2018.
They finally have started to detect these things as they arrive in the mail.
So what are the Chinese now doing?
They're now going south of the border. They're setting up machine tool operations. With the cartels.
And they're starting to smuggle these devices, across the open border.
So it's illegal immigrants. It's fentanyl.
It's now these devices that will sew chaos in American streets.
Because these devices are being targeted specifically, at drug organizations.
And violent criminal organizations, in the awes.
GLENN: So, Peter, at some point in the book. Blood money.
You say the CCP tricked the Trump administration into COVID lockdowns.
PETER: Yeah.
GLENN: What do you mean by that? What evidence do you have of that?
PETER: So a couple of things. One, if you remember in March of 2020, there was a report issued by imperial college of London, by a professor Ferguson. And it presented this apocalyptic view, that if we did not imitate the Chinese and have lockdowns.
There would be 2 million Americans dead within the next six months. And there will be 500,000 dead in the UK. And if you look at the accounts, the memoirs that have come out.
This had a very profound effect on Donald Trump.
And the administration.
And this moved us to the point of saying, maybe we need to start looking at some of these things.
And, in fact, we did.
Here's the problem. That imperial college of London study, was done, under Chinese influence.
Imperial college of London is a leading academic partner of the CCP. A government in China. They have a long cooperation there.
That particular study, included Chinese data. Included Chinese scholars.
Then the Chinese.
And again, I quote extensively from them. Had a strategy to impose the authoritarian model, for responding to disease on us. Because if you talk about us then.
Before the point, the response was, people that are sick should stay home.
Everybody else should go about their lives ordinarily. That's not the Chinese model.
The Chinese actively pushed that, in the United States. One of the things they reportedly do. I report in Blood Money. They donate in quotation marks. To American cities. Particularly in California and New Jersey.
Hundreds of drones. Our own government started using to monitor their own people. To make sure they were hearing the lockdowns.
And this was part of a Chinese strategy, to get us to embrace some of these authoritarian approaches.
And it's really actually quite extraordinary. And, you know, one of the reasons, that we have a certain individual on the front cover of the book.
Tony Fauci, is because we revealed in emails that we obtained, et cetera, that he covered for the Chinese in this regard.
That he would not criticize the Chinese. It's not just about the lab leak. He would not criticize the Chinese, he embraced their lockdown approaches.
And he kind of pooh-poohed, and criticized Americans.
There's a famous exchange, where a New York Times reporter is emailing with Tony Fauci. And says, China has been heroic in their response to this crisis with COVID.
Unlike, you know, Americans who are basically being fat, selfish slobs.
And Tony's response was, yeah. You make a really, really good point here.
On the record, he agreed with him.
That's the disdain that a lot of these leaders had, for their own countrymen.
And the embrace that they had for this authoritarian model, that the CCP imposed.
GLENN: So I'm out of time.
Peter, would you come back in a couple of days. When you can come up for a breath of air.
And tell us where we need to start to dismantle.
Again, I thank you for exposing all of this. You're usually so far ahead of the curve.
But I think Americans sense now, something is really wrong.
Especially with our relationship with China and the border.
And fentanyl. So you're right on the money here. I would love to have you back, to talk a little bit more about where we should begin to dismantle. And how that can be done.
PETER: Yeah. Would love to do it, as always, Glenn. I appreciate your encouragement and support as always, and I'm glad to come back.
GLENN: Got it. Thank you so much Peter. Peter Schweizer. He's an unbelievable -- an unbelievable author. Good friend of the ram. Known him for years. He never, never holds back any punches, from either side.
He is as fair as they come. And extraordinarily well-buttoned up. His book, the latest. You should get it.
Comes out tomorrow.
Is blood money. Blood money by Peter Schweizer.